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Gillian3
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Spoken within hours of each other.
VP Cheney - the insurgency is in it's last throes.
Rumsfeld - it will take 12 years to defeat the insurgency.
VP Cheney - the insurgency is in it's last throes.
Rumsfeld - it will take 12 years to defeat the insurgency.
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James Sokolowski
HRhero.com
I can see quite easily how the insurgency might end at a particular point and we still have to be there shoveling and rebuilding for 10 more years. The insurgency in West Germany ended 50 years ago and we're still there. Same thing for the Phillipines and Italy.
(Besides, these two irreplaceable guys are held in separate secret bunkers. Do you expect them to actually communicate? The Democrats subterfuge network has made their phones and email inoperative.) x:-)
Hey, so what does this do to our stated policy of NEVER negotiating with terrorists? x;-)
It amazes me how people of some stripes actually want the United States to lose this war. It simply amazes me.
My question is simply why we would negotiate with terrorists? Are we thereby acknowledging that we can't pummel them into submission, which seems to be our normal method of operation? Seems to me that if we go to the bargaining table, hat in hand, we have effectively admitted we can't handle it. If that's the case, own up to it and move on - but stop pretending that "we will never negotiate with terrorists." Puhleeze!
Besides, bashing leaders is the national pastime these days. Reps bash dems, dems bash reps, everybody bashes somebody. It's more entertaining that way. x:-)
- get Congress to trump W's vetos and refuse to pass his programs or confirm his justices
- put Cheney and Rumsfeld in the same room and let's watch them verbally backtrack and duke it out to clean up the presentation
- to Don specifically: remind yourself that almost everything you have said against "Democrat-Liberals" has been tried by Republicans under a different administration, so put a lid on it - or at least a screen.
Re Iraq - I hate the war. I think W & Co. put us into it deliberately via misrepresentation and miscommunication from sloppy agency work and has overcommitted us between Afganistan (which I understood) and Iraq, forgetting it's a big world with other countries that need help - like the U.S.A.! Do I support our troops anyway? Absolutely. A friend's son (and a few others) are over there and it would be nice for him to come home intact to his new wife. His time was up months ago and he's caught in Bush's trap and can't get out.
Ramp up Iraqi security forces ASAP and don't dink around. They need to take charge of their own security so we can get the Sam Hill out of there!
Empower the Iraqi government (such as it is) to MAKE DECISIONS WITHOUT OUR INTERFERENCE! Don't use a carrot-and-stick approach and tell them they won't get any cookies if they don't play the game our way.
Set a timeline for withdrawal of all American troops (trust me, the Brits and other members of our illustrious "coalition" will be right on our heels). You don't have to publicize it - just have the plan in place and begin to execute it, if you're so concerned about tipping off the insurgents.
Petition the United Nations (I know you think that's a bad word) to assist in transitioning Iraq from military to civilian control. The only way the transition will have any legitimacy from a world perspective is if other nations see that the construction of the new government is perceived to actually have the support of other countries.
Throw a whole bunch of money at them to rebuild infrastructure since we turned their country into a parking lot. Leave the reconstruction up to them - they have the brainpower and the manpower to do it if they really want to.
Finally, GET THE H-E-DOUBLE-TOOTHPICKS OUTTA DODGE AND LET THEM HAVE THEIR COUNTRY BACK! We can provide advice, guidance, money - but phone it in and stop sending active duty, Guard and Reserve troops to hold their hands through the whole process! Many Oregon Army Guardsmen are on their second and even third tours over there (involuntarily) and I, for one, would like to see them come home with all ten fingers and all ten toes (not to mention other assorted appendages) intact so they can come back to work for MY COMPANY!
Living Don - One pattern of Bush's that keeps getting us into trouble is that when it comes to religion and form of government, it's his way or no way (Christianity & democracy). I happen to believe in both, but I also acknowledge that there's more than one way to skin a cat and historically, more than one way to successfully run a country. He needs to stop telling them (per Parabeagle) "they won't get any cookies if they don't play the game our way".
Something I thought of this morning - HR scenario.
One of the things that makes nursing less than appealing is that when a shift is over and the next either hasn't shown up or deliberately wasn't scheduled - they are told they have to stay until replacements show up - up to a 24hr shift. We are currently experiencing a nursing shortage.
In the military, when recruited they sign contracts to serve a specific period of time. Under current conditions, the President has power to extend that term at will. There are currently few replacements for the guys and gals who are supposed to be coming home so they are being extended 8-12 months over their contracted period. And military recruitment in all or almost all of the service branches is down.
Does anyone else see a pattern here?
But, your attitude is probably about the same as mine was between '69 and '75.
So the concept of "to the victor goes the spoils" does not apply here (at least not officially).