non-frat policies

deniseE · February 2004

We are working on developing a policy that would require employees in either an "amorous" relationship (defined as 2 consenting partners have a sexual union or other romantic relationship) or family members, by blood or law, to disclose such a relationship within 30 days of the establishment of the relationship.

At that point we propose to arrange a transfer if needed to continue smooth business relationships.

I have some enforcement concerns...but I wanted to get your thoughts on this....

SteelBoy · February 2004

You are asking for employees, who may not have a reporting relationship, to disclose if they are having sex????????????

If you guys move forward with this, I'd love to participate in crafting the wording for the policy. The Boy of Steel would have some creative language for that policy.

I have raised just one of multiple issues here. I'm sure there are others who will have detailed insight. I must say, this issue requires some HR mumbo jumbo dialogue. I respectfully bow out.

janeS · February 2004

We are a 24/7 Hospital so we have the possibility of relatives and beyond and here is how we addressed it. If it's a relative, policy defines who a relative is and states that no reporting relationship can exist, nor can they work on the same shift.

Also, the policy states that the Hospital 'reserves the right to require the transfer of an associate from the supervision of another where it reasonably believes that there exists a personal relationship that could lead to inequitable treatment of that associate by the supervising associate. Associates required to transfer will be allowed a maximum of 6 months to complete the transfer.'

I'm just providing the paragraph above as example of the language we use as opposed to "amorous".

Hope it helps!

Parabeagle · February 2004

To borrow a page from SteelBoy, I suppose our policy is filled with "HR mumbo jumbo" and I'd be happy to share it with you. It does basically what you want it to do, the only difference being that we do not put a time frame on reporting, but requires that the employee "disclose the nature or circumstances of the relationship or situation to his/her immediate supervisor so a determination may be made as to whether a potential or actual conflict of interest exists."

I should also point out that our policy is not restricted to co-workers or supervisor and subordinates but encompasses potentially inappropriate relationships with competitors, suppliers, vendors, etc. which might impair an employee's ability to exercise good judgment on behalf of the Company.

SteelBoy · February 2004

Now, that's worthwhile mumbo jumbo. Nice post.

Don D · February 2004

I know several married couples whom I'm told no longer have a 'sexual union'.

Crout · February 2004

Sex? What's that?

Dan · February 2004

Enforcing it will be a major problem. If the employees did not come forward, how are you going to prove they are having a relationship or are even related?

Cinderella · February 2004

Yeah, and what about "friends with benefits?" x0:)

KIDDING, folks, kidding.

Cinderella

Parabeagle · February 2004

Always looking for the loophole, huh, Cinderella? x;-)

Cinderella · February 2004

You betcha! x}>
Cinderella

SMace · February 2004

Is there a reason why you are doing this? Has there been a problem? If not this sounds like a classic case of HR with nothing to do.... Hey, I know we'll make a new policy! Absent a problem, there has to be more pressing issues than this.

deniseE · February 2004

we don't have many "written" policies and have a list of 33 that are to be drafted and implemented...this is one that came up.

I agree whole-heartedly with the difficulty of enforcement...and if such a policy is written, I believe equal time needs to be spent detailing what investigative tactics should be used in "ferreting out" such activity.

We have a clause in the ethics policy that prevents favoritism, relationships with clients..and that sort of thing...THAT is a bit easier to enforce.

I just keep thinking about what the defense of this policy would look like.

Parabeagle, would you send me your policy?
Thanks

SteelBoy · February 2004

33 that you have to put in place. pppppffffftttttt!!!!!

Go with SMACE's advice.

33 is a lot of mumbo jumbo especially if there is no problem.

Plus, sex makes people happy. Let your employees be happy.

SMace · February 2004

>Plus, sex makes people happy.

I tell that to my wife all the time. Maybe if I tell her SteelBoy said so, she'll finally agree.

SteelBoy · February 2004

Do so at your own risk.

Don D · February 2004

OK. It's Friday and time to reveal the secret. Steelboy is from NC. SMace is from NC. They post right on top of each other. Steelboy rags everybody else and compliments SMace on multiple threads. They are either the same person or in the same building having a ball. I'll take the prize in cash please. I did enjoy it though Steven.

Cinderella · February 2004

x:o

SMace · February 2004

By the way Marc complimented me on the personnel file thread. Thanks Marc.

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